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Artist Highlight: Flasher – Our Tradition


Hailing from Washington, D.C., the members of Flasher spent years slicing their tooth within the native DIY punk scene earlier than releasing their debut album as a trio, Fixed Picture, in 2018. As their viewers grew – thanks partly to the joyful, dizzying urgency that made their model of post-punk stand out – issues began to shift. After touring for Fixed Picture, founding bassist Daniel Saperstein left the band, which reformed as a duo comprised of guitarist Taylor Mulitz (previously of Monks) and drummer Emma Baker. Given the uniquely collaborative nature of Flasher, recalibrating wasn’t a simple course of. However by leaning into in addition to opening up their roles inside the group, Mulitz and Baker have come by way of with a follow-up, Love Is Yours, that’s invigorating and dynamic in new but acquainted methods. Fixed Picture featured shared vocals, however the brand new album extra prominently brings out each of their voices, with Baker taking over extra lead vocal and songwriting duties. Recorded with longtime good friend Owen Wuerker, the songs are crisp but intricately layered, illuminating the duo’s mature perspective on the fragility of relationships. Flasher’s music could now not be outlined by uncooked angst, however the heat, directness, and vulnerability that permeate Love Is Yours make it no much less thrilling.

We caught up with Flasher for this version of our Artist Highlight interview sequence to speak about discovering a brand new path for the band, the method behind Love Is Yours, trying to find the right feeling, and extra.


Within the 4 years between Fixed Picture and Love Is Yours, a number of issues modified – on the planet at giant, the scene that you simply got here out of, the construction of the band itself. Once you determined to begin engaged on a brand new album, did you discover yourselves reflecting on the place you’ve been with the intention to transfer ahead? Or, by that time, was it extra about specializing in methods to work issues out within the current?

Taylor Mulitz: I believe that’s a extremely good query, and I’d say it was each. Musically, when it comes to leaving the previous behind and attempting to blaze a brand new path ahead and never pigeonholing ourselves in any respect primarily based on what we’ve accomplished previously when it got here to writing the musical components of the document – that was the way it felt. And I believe the thematic components when it comes to the lyrics take care of reckoning together with your previous self, embracing change and forgiveness.

Do you’re feeling such as you had been working by way of these modifications as a band and also you had been additionally processing them in your music, or had been they two separate issues that ended up mirroring one another?

TM: I believe they had been intertwined.

Emma Baker: Yeah. [laughs] For me, for positive.

TM: Writing the document was actually enjoyable. It didn’t really feel like a problem, but it surely felt like – it’s sort of once you begin a brand new band and every part feels actually contemporary and thrilling and it’s sort of an open subject – you possibly can go in any path.

Emma, in what methods do you’re feeling prefer it was intertwined for you?

EB: Simply on a fundamental degree, my involvement with writing on this document – we’ve all the time written music collectively, however our course of beforehand once we had been trio was extra like: we’d all get collectively and jam and we might write an entire instrumental, end a music from begin to end instrumentally with out including vocal components but. And this time round, it was sort of the other. We had been beginning with a demo that has a number of singing, actually vocal-forward, and previously, that’s probably not been what I contribute to Flasher. I actually wished to be productive and work with Taylor on getting the document going, and I’m not simply going to take a seat round and look forward to Taylor to put in writing the entire document. This was my first time actually beginning to write songs myself at house, after which bringing them to Taylor for us to complete. However definitely, with regards to writing lyrics, I lean extra in the direction of writing extra… what’s the phrase?

TM: Private?

EB: Yeah. I undoubtedly labored some issues out within the songs that I wrote on this document.

TM: It’s humorous, I simply had a flashback to once we first began demoing the document and we might do that factor the place we had been attempting to work out melodies, we’d have this one riff that we simply knew and we might sing into the microphone. And one of many songs that we’d sing over just about each music in a special key was ‘Operating Up That Hill’.

If there was a time to place out a canopy of that music…

TM: We tried it at karaoke the opposite night time.

EB: Neither of us can sing like Kate Bush.

With Daniel Saperstein’s departure from the band, to what extent did you must rethink what Flasher’s identification as a band could be as a duo? Was that one thing you had conversations about, or was your method to simply work collectively and see what naturally emerges from that?

EM: I believe there was a quick second of like, “Oh shit, is that this new band? Will we completely rename this band?” Clearly, that didn’t occur. Logistically, it wouldn’t have made sense to try this. And the origin story of Flasher really was simply me and Taylor in one other band beforehand, so it seems like returning to that dynamic, which all the time felt pure.

In what methods do you’re feeling it’s completely different?

TM: That band was referred to as Younger China, it was like a punk band. It was very decidedly, like, we’re going to try to be in a punk band, as a result of neither of us ever actually had – regardless of having been within the punk scene without end, I assume Monks will get thought-about a punk band – however we had been like, we’re gonna attempt to try this. And we nonetheless didn’t fairly do this. [laughs] As a result of we’re too obsessive about pop music and it’s gonna discover its manner in there. However once we began engaged on this document, we had been actually wanting to maneuver away from punk.

Have you ever all the time been obsessive about pop music?

EM: We’ve sort of all the time cherished it.

TM: Yeah, we’ve all the time cherished it. I imply, to be sincere with you, as a younger teen, I used to be actually into indie rock. After which I believe in a while in my teenage years, I used to be actually ashamed of that. I felt prefer it was embarrassing. So I sort of pushed that to the aspect, and now that we’re just a little older, I might be like, “Really, a few of that music was good,” and it’s discovering its manner again into my very own songwriting.

You stated it was partly a logistical choice to maintain making music as Flasher. Musically or aesthetically, what’s one thing that you simply really feel like has and can stay a relentless in your work as a band? Or is that too exhausting to conceptualize?

EM: Yeah, it’s exhausting to place a finger on.

TM: My reply is so boring. It’s like, the forms of chord progressions that we gravitate in the direction of – if I’m looking for a throughline between Fixed Picture and this new document, I believe there’s a number of that. Or the forms of melodies that we’re into or the best way issues resolve. However that’s so amorphous, . At first I used to be like, “This sounds completely completely different.” And it’s been fascinating to see individuals’s response to it as a result of some individuals are like, “That is so left-field or manner on the market.” After which different individuals are like, “It nonetheless sounds such as you guys.”

Did discover yourselves attempting to maneuver away from these sorts of chord progressions or melodies whereas making Love Is Yours?

TM: In no way, truthfully.

EM: Just about the other of that.

TM: We had been like, “Let’s simply go for it.” Simply write the songs that really feel good and allow them to discover their manner naturally.

Going again to Fixed Picture, you’ve stated that the making of that album was marked by stress. Did you make a aware effort going into this document to try to take steps to keep away from an analogous expertise?

EM: I don’t suppose this time round it was our aim to not recreate that have per se. However the circumstances of the pandemic led us to the place we ended up making the document.

TM: Nicely, in a manner it sort of was that manner as a result of we did two check recording runs with completely different producers to see the way it felt.

EM: True.

TM: And it didn’t fairly like click on. I believe earlier than the pandemic hit, really, we had determined we’re going to document it at house as a result of that feels actually comfy. We had already been demoing right here with Owen and already felt so connected to the demos, so once we labored with different individuals, we had been like, “Oh no, this isn’t cool.” [laughs] After which we’re like, “Let’s simply do it ourselves.”

Was there any shift in your collaborative method, too, that was meant to make it extra comfy?

EM: Taylor and I each simply began demoing stuff on our personal as a result of he was dwelling in Baltimore once we had been beginning to write this document and I used to be nonetheless in DC, after which we’d get collectively a few days every week to share what we’ve been engaged on. I believe the distinction this time round was that I used to be writing stuff too, and that each of us had been demoing much more on our personal in ways in which we hadn’t earlier than. Since Daniel is a recording engineer, they might do all of the engineering a part of making our demos previously. So this time was me and Taylor studying methods to use Logic and stuff ourselves and making backing beats for issues that we’re writing.

What else did you study from having much less of a hard and fast function within the band?

TM: I’ve undoubtedly began experimenting with a number of several types of instrumentation outdoors of simply guitar and bass, which is thrilling, like drum machines, Emma talked about recording in Logic – I simply really feel like I’ve discovered a ton. However one factor that I actually take away from the method of creating this document, which I sort of alluded to earlier than, is trusting your intestine and never feeling like you must drive one thing right into a field that doesn’t come naturally. Feeling like, “Oh, this doesn’t sound like Flasher,” , no matter – ultimately, it did. And that was simply because it’s the identical individuals making it. Your voice is all the time gonna come by way of.

EM: Clearly, I discovered methods to play a number of issues I don’t usually play. Like, let go of my identification being, I’m the drummer. It was sort of liberating to have songs on the document that simply don’t have stay drums, as a result of going into the method, the concept was that every part would have stay drums and that sure demos that had drum machines, that’s only a placeholder. However ultimately, a lot of the songs sounded higher with the drum machine, so… That’s been an enormous change for me with this course of. That now not must be all that I’m.

TM: Which is humorous too, as a result of the songs on the document which have the drum machines, now that we’re taking part in them stay and have been attempting to play with the drum machine, we’re like, “No, this wants stay drums.”

EM: [laughs] Yeah.

TM: Simply transforming songs, which is enjoyable.

I wished to carry up a line from the opening observe, ‘I Noticed You’: “I’m not searching for a that means/ Caught within the seek for an ideal feeling.” I really feel like that’s a theme that runs all through the album. Do you suppose that by the tip of this journey, you come nearer to understanding what that excellent feeling is?

TM: I’d say the conclusion reached the tip of the document is that there is no such thing as a excellent feeling, and that’s okay.

EM: Yeah, the search is life. [laughs]

TM: And being in an ambiguous state, feeling comfy being in that place, I really feel like that’s what a number of the songs are about. And also you undoubtedly hit the nail on the pinnacle with ‘I Noticed You’. I really feel like that music actually encapsulates the sentiment of a number of what we’re speaking about on the document.

If it’s extra concerning the search, what drives you to maintain trying to find that feeling?

TM: I believe we each, as is the case for most individuals inside the previous few years, really feel actually depressed and despondent, and it’s straightforward to simply crawl right into a gap and never tackle something that’s happening or not search out experiences that problem you or make you scared or push you into a special mindset. And I believe the manifesto is that’s a part of what makes life value dwelling. There’s songs like ‘Love is Yours’ and ‘All Day Lengthy’ – each of these are sort of about relationships feeling uncomfortable however actually thrilling at identical time, and I believe that the 2 go hand in hand.

EM: I really feel like that’s simply the mature outlook on life – or extra mature than what we’d have beforehand had. Quite a lot of this document is simply accepting that about relationships. The work put within the seek for the right feeling or no matter – that can be the enjoyment of life.

May you share one thing that evokes you about one another?

TM: The place do I begin? Emma is among the most proficient musicians that I do know, actually can do all of it. She’s actually devoted to taking part in music and being a musician, no matter what occurs – if this document tanks, individuals hate it, label drops us, no matter – I simply know that Emma’s trip or die. And it evokes me to maintain taking part in and never give a fuck about anybody else.

EM: [laughs] Rattling. Taylor is so deeply charismatic. I do know that now we’re co-leaders of this band, however I nonetheless consider you as the person who holds all of it collectively. You uplift me day-after-day to attempt new stuff. I really feel very… God, I can by no means discover the suitable phrase. You simply push me to do extra stuff, all the time. I haven’t all the time felt like that in all the bands that I’ve been in.


This interview has been edited and condensed for readability and size.

Flasher’s Love Is Yours is out June 10 by way of Domino.

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